Animal rights AND human rights means you must do all you can to actively help any being that is forcefully oppressed …
an equation to start calculating, starting to say: well if I help you, someone else will be tortured in your place, so I just leave you alone
is crap
what do you think about the abolitionist type of anti alf position, such as we can find it here http://bit.ly/67i2Sm http://bit.ly/4P2FyF ?
@niceswine wrote : Vegan craze: be a new vegan, turn normality into a flexible vegan animal rights and humans rights embracing status quo. All is inter-chained.
@veganseeds replied : @NiceSwine “Flexible vegan animal rights?” What does that mean? Rights for beings don’t seem ‘flexible’ to me …
and added a motto too : #Vegan is not who you are, but what you do. Vegan is not a lifestyle or identity, but an ethic to uphold. Anyone can be vegan.
@niceswine wrote : “flexible” – it refers to the political handling of the vegan praxis. It needs felixibility instead of dogmatism. *Life is flex*.
( … words often get a connotation which narrows down their usability. I personally use words like a raw material. I too reject verbal cliches … )
(turn normality into … ) “a flexible human / animal rights status quo” would be the same such as : no set systems (no dogmas), but instead …
rights that pertain to the *value of the individual being*.
Such naturally understood rights basically can’t be framed. they are self-defining.
a flexible status quo (in rights terms, be they human or animal rights) unequals a dogmatic status quo (to have, as a vegan in HR and AR terms … ).
why would I think rights are something flexible when I talk about a flexible status quo in my lifestyle practice versus dogmatism.
I am tired of the biologistic approach in veganism … that keeps out the need of a freedom of critical thinking in ethical reasoning (…)
ok … it
turned out later that @veganseeds or J Muir is against animal liberation in the sense of i.e the ALF and … well see yourself on :
http://veganactivist.wordpress.com/2008/12/23/i-dont-support-alf/
http://veganactivist.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/some-thoughts-about-open-rescue/
oooookkkkkk … to say the least.
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an equation to start calculating, starting to say: well if I help you, someone else will be tortured in your place, so I just leave you alone
is crap
what do you think about the abolitionist type of anti alf position, such as we can find it here http://bit.ly/67i2Sm http://bit.ly/4P2FyF ?
@niceswine wrote : Vegan craze: be a new vegan, turn normality into a flexible vegan animal rights and humans rights embracing status quo. All is inter-chained.
@veganseeds replied : @NiceSwine “Flexible vegan animal rights?” What does that mean? Rights for beings don’t seem ‘flexible’ to me …
and added a motto too : #Vegan is not who you are, but what you do. Vegan is not a lifestyle or identity, but an ethic to uphold. Anyone can be vegan.
@niceswine wrote : “flexible” – it refers to the political handling of the vegan praxis. It needs felixibility instead of dogmatism. *Life is flex*.
( … words often get a connotation which narrows down their usability. I personally use words like a raw material. I too reject verbal cliches … )
(turn normality into … ) “a flexible human / animal rights status quo” would be the same such as : no set systems (no dogmas), but instead …
rights that pertain to the *value of the individual being*.
Such naturally understood rights basically can’t be framed. they are self-defining.
a flexible status quo (in rights terms, be they human or animal rights) unequals a dogmatic status quo (to have, as a vegan in HR and AR terms … ).
why would I think rights are something flexible when I talk about a flexible status quo in my lifestyle practice versus dogmatism.
I am tired of the biologistic approach in veganism … that keeps out the need of a freedom of critical thinking in ethical reasoning (…)
ok … it
turned out later that @veganseeds or J Muir is against animal liberation in the sense of i.e the ALF and … well see yourself on :
http://veganactivist.wordpress.com/2008/12/23/i-dont-support-alf/
http://veganactivist.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/some-thoughts-about-open-rescue/
oooookkkkkk … to say the least.
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